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How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

08.06.2025 00:47

How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

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Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

What is the most interesting question you can ask to get to know someone?

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

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ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

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The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

Do you have any opinion on Japanese writer/actor Yukio Mishima?

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

What 10 things have you stopped doing in your life?

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

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ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

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We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

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That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

How should one handle a situation where they suspect their partner of cheating, but their partner denies it and claims it is all in their head?

I am like a fish out of water,

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

Where's the Civil War everyone on the left said would happen?

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

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Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

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With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

Sain (a barber)

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

Kabir (a weaver)

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

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You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

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Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

then who is there to know what happens without?

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

NOW…

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

Now here in this verse

CONCLUSION:

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

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There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?